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MATRIX:
How did you first come to get your part?
CARRIE-ANNE: I auditioned in the regular way, first
for the casting director and then for the Wachowski brothers.
After that I did this most amazing three day process of screen
testing for the film. The first day of which was 3 hours of
running, kung fu and taping all these different fights. A
really intense 3 hours of just brutal training from which
I couldn't walk for days.
MATRIX: Have you ever done anything like that before?
CARRIE-ANNE: No, I have only ever done a karate aerobics
class. I think the screen test felt so brutal because I tried
so hard, I really went at it 190% so the screen testers would
know that I could do it that hard, but afterwards I literally
couldn't walk. In my training for the film I tried to take
it a little slower. During the government lobby scene just
before I had to do my cartwheel on the wall, I hurt one of
my ankles so badly I felt sure that I had broken it. I kept
my boot on, which I think supported it. The adrenaline of
those three days of fighting kept me going, and when the weekend
came by I couldn't walk. I still can't walk every morning
when I first get up, and that was what, four months ago?
MATRIX: Did the cast sport masseuse, Longie, help you
any?
CARRIE-ANNE: Yes. Longie is the absolute king of our
movie. He didn't help my ankle so much because your ankle
is a really difficult thing to heal, you just have to keep
off of it, but there were a couple of mornings when I showed
up for work with such severe neck pain that I couldn't move
my neck, and I was in tears thinking, "Oh my god I've got
to find him". He really saved me. He helped me to get grounded
at the beginning of the film as well, I was really nervous
and unsure. He said some great things and helped me a lot,
kept my body really open. But it has been painful work. I'm
supposed to be getting a massage tomorrow, but I'm not going
to Longie. I'm going somewhere I can get a really caressing
massage; his are really intense. He really helped Larry and
Keanu as well.
MATRIX: I understand that Larry and Andy (Wachowski:
the directors) really wanted you in this film.
CARRIE-ANNE: It means a lot to me that they did. I
was very overwhelmed with it all at first. I can imagine the
extent to which they must have had to fight to have me in
this film. I imagine that the powers that be in Hollywood
would have wanted someone more famous. Those two guys must
have believed in me so much.
MATRIX: Deservedly so, considering the footage coming
in.
CARRIE-ANNE: I feel like I have really accomplished
something. I have a couple of scenes where I think: "I wish,
I wish, I wish I could do that again", but overall I feel
really proud.
MATRIX: The part of Trinity was a physically demanding
part. How was that to cope with?
CARRIE-ANNE: My first fight in the movie was unbelievable
because I was doing things I had done well a couple of times,
but wasn't terribly consistent with. Sometimes I would get
it and sometimes I wouldn't. It was like being an athlete
and hitting my peak. I hit my peak the days I shot. It was
like this power that was bigger than me took over, and I felt
it in such an amazing way. I had amazing confidence, which
was one of the things that Yuen Ping [the fight choreographer]
and his team really worked on with me, they said it was my
biggest thing and I agree with them. They would say all you
need is someone to believe in you, and they're right.
MATRIX: I can't imagine you've ever run up, or done
flips, off of a wall.
CARRIE-ANNE: That cartwheel was one of the hardest
things. I learned that three days before I had to do it, then
I had to run up a wall which made it even harder. The weekend
before I had to do it, I was in the training center in tears
saying: "I can't do it, I can't do it!" I am very emotional.
Amongst all these men I am the emotional faucet. If I don't
get something right I get tough and I want to do it again,
but I also cry like a baby. I really didn't think I would
be able to do that one. Then my ankle went bad.
MATRIX: That happened before the cartwheel?
CARRIE-ANNE: Yes an hour before.
MATRIX: How did you manage?
CARRIE-ANNE: I have no idea. The nurse could not believe
I could walk. I told her that she could not tell anybody.
Well, everyone knew because I fell over on it and I was screaming:
"Oh no!" But nobody knew the extent to how bad it was.
MATRIX: So how did you keep on filming?
CARRIE-ANNE: I honestly have no idea, I didn't take
anything. I guess it was just adrenaline, because as soon
as the weekend came I couldn't walk. And then Monday came
and I was back on set and did it all over again. But I am
paying for it now.
MATRIX: How about telling me about Larry and Andy.
CARRIE-ANNE: I love them. They are two incredible people,
two of the greatest men I have ever met. As filmmakers they
are brilliant. Just yesterday for instance, we did the last
shot of the movie; they told me to just cross here and do
this, and when I looked at the screen I was amazed because
I had no idea of the shot they had created. The composition,
their style, their unbelievable artistic creativity and the
way that they shoot, every single frame is unbelievable.
MATRIX: Everything down to the smallest transition
shot.
CARRIE-ANNE: Yes. And they are cool, they speak in
a language that I understand, which is really unusual. Every
once in a while I meet a director that I can get. I would
be really happy to work the rest of my life with them, with
Keanu and Laurence and Hugo. I would be so happy to never
work with anyone ever again but I would be out of a job. I
feel so completely spoiled. I have been a huge fan of theirs
since I saw 'Bound'.
MATRIX: Was it a long shoot?
CARRIE-ANNE: It was 9 months for me. It has been the
best time of my life.
MATRIX: What's next?
CARRIE-ANNE: Rest. I have no idea. It is going to be
hard to get another job. I have been spoiled with my first
big movie. I couldn't have been more lucky.
MATRIX: It's been great seeing some of your scenes.
That Government lobby sequence is amazing.
CARRIE-ANNE: Can you imagine it on the big screen!
It's going to be awesome. This was all so long ago that I
am going to be blown away when I see it all again. We have
been acting for the last month with no action, so it will
be really fascinating.
MATRIX: What does 'The Matrix' mean to you?
CARRIE-ANNE: When I first met the guys [Larry and Andy]
I had not read the script, but had got the vibe of it from
a couple of scenes that I had auditioned for. I got the script
right after that and when I read it, it reminded me of one
time at school when a teacher proposed this question to the
class: 'What if, right now, our sitting in this classroom
is just a dream? What if our lives are just dreams?' And in
that moment, even though we didn't have big discussions about
it, a seed was planted in my mind: it was the first time I
thought that maybe life is not the way I was told and taught,
maybe things are different. You grow up believing in evolution
or religion or that the world is flat, and whatever you've
been told is what you believe. I thought that day it could
be something different, something I'm not aware of. Sometimes
I'll be walking through life and I'll go, "Am I dreaming?
How do I know this isn't a dream?" That's kind of the Matrix.
MATRIX: Thanks Carrie-Anne.
Interview by Spencer Lamm
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