What
about the half million dollars to go topless in Swordfish?
Totally
not true! I would sell these babies for way much more
money than that. But it's made for great publicity
for the movie.
Where
did that story start, then?
I
have no idea where that came from; nobody's owning
up to it. But totally, totally not true.
Was
it a freeing experience, pardon the pun, to bare your
breasts on camera?
Not
just that. To me it was more than that. It was playing
a character who was that in control of her sexuality,
that comfortable with herself. That was the challenge
— that and to not sit there looking half scared
to death, which is what I felt inside.
Was
it really necessary?
I
don't think nudity is ever necessary. I think you
can make every single movie and never show anything
and it's fine. It was a bold choice on our part. It
was written in the script, and when I got offered
the part I was told that's who this girl is and it's
not negotiable to be taken out. So any actress, whether
it be me or someone else, had to play the part as
she was written. So I did. It's a choice that one
makes.
Would
you do it again?
Oh,
absolutely, I will do it again if the part inspires
me or calls for it.
Are
you surprised we're having a discussion about this?
Nope.
I knew it would happen; I expected it and you have
not let me down. [Laughs]
How
did you feel on the day of that scene?
The
hardest part was three months before, deciding to
do it. When the day came, it was very anticlimactic.
Hugh was more uncomfortable than I was, because I
see these all the time. He was like, "Oh my God! There
she is."
It's
a striking example of the power women have.
That's
what I thought. I hope women would feel that way because
that's our power and not feel exploited. If we learn
to use that power, we have the world right here.
Should
guys be expected to expose more in movies?
I
think some men have made bold choices and I think
more men in the coming generation will.
The
interracial romance in Swordfish isn't even
an issue.
That
was what was really exciting and made me get over
the nudity really quickly, because I saw this as an
opportunity to take a black woman to another place
where we haven't gone before. That's been my struggle,
to be just a woman in a movie and not let the fact
that I'm black hinder me from getting parts that my
counterparts are able to play. This was a big step
in that direction.
Is
Hollywood less colorblind now?
I
think it's less but it's still struggling. The more
there are little steps like this, eventually they
will realize it that it is OK, that we can just be
people. Color doesn't have to matter all the time.
In some stories it does have to matter, but there
are so many stories where it doesn't.
How
was working with Hugh Jackman this time?
A
whole lot better. Because this time we really got
to work together. In X-Men, we saw each other
in the cafeteria but we didn't really have scenes
together.
You
two flirt in the film. Was that just natural chemistry?
It
was in the script. But because we knew each other
from all those months in Canada making X-Men,
we had a chemistry, a banter, and a rhythm we'd developed.
But it was written in the script.
You
claim to be a technophobe, yet you have a Web site
— which you used to reveal that you were married.
The
media has always been pretty kind to me. But it's
always nice to have an outlet, to have a voice that's
uncut and unedited so I can say what I want to say.
I try not to use it as a preaching tool, to uplift
myself to the nth degree, but I like to go on there.
I got to go on and say it's not true that I got a
half million dollars to show my boobs.
What has marriage done for you?
I
just feel a lot more settled in life. I think if I
had not been married, I would not have made the choice
to do this part. Eric is so supportive of who I am
and where I'm trying to go as an actress and as a
black woman. It was refreshing to know he could see
that and say, "God, that really looked beautiful,"
and not feel insecure and try not to be like a ball
and chain. It's very much about letting you fly.
How
many songs have you inspired on Eric's new album?
[Smiles]
About six. Well, his new album has a lot of love songs,
songs about people coming together and what that feels
like. The songs are very loving.
What
do you like to do during the summer when you're not
acting?
Usually
just spend time with my family. I like to rollerblade
a lot, swim, play tennis. Take time to do things.
I travel so much with my work, when I have time off,
that's usually the last thing I want to do. I want
to stay somewhere and feel rooted. Just have some
sort of normalcy and regularity.
Is
this the best time of your life?
Yeah,
the happiest and the most comfortable. You
sound like you didn't expect to ever be happy or have
a good marriage. Are you surprised your life has taken
a turn for the better?
Yeah,
I think I got preconditioned that maybe it just wasn't
for me. It feels really good to know that it was just
maybe some bad choices. A lot of growth has taken
place and I've learned a lot of things about myself
and it feels good.
So
it wasn't just a matter of finding the right guy?
I
had to change in order to find what the right guy
looks like. So I think it's a little bit of both.
What's
the biggest lesson you've learned?
Just
to be true to myself, which is why I did this movie.
I figured everyone was going to freak out and say,
"Why would you do that after Dorothy Dandridge?"
My answer is "Because I can." And that feels really
good to be comfortable saying that.
Did
winning the Emmy and Golden Globe awards for Dandridge
give you more confidence?
Absolutely.
I can relax now in my life. I think that's what shows.
I'm just comfortable. If I don't make another movie,
if I don't win another award, I've made a contribution
that I can be really proud of. I don't have that desire
anymore. And I think things will come my way because
I'm sort of loosened-up.
Do
you mean you've lost your edge to push your career?
Actually,
it's the opposite. I feel freer now, because I am
so comfortable, to go after all those things I was
afraid of before, to take the risks. I think I used
to be afraid of that, and now with the awards and
my personal life so comfortable, I'm feeling even
more inspired to try things that used to scare me.
Dorothy
Dandridge is your role model. What was the importance
of telling that story for you?
I
think it was an eye-opener for a lot of people. When
they realized the struggle of her life, they had more
respect for her and for what minorities, especially
African-Americans, deal with in that industry. By
me doing it, I think it says that if little old me
at 7 years old can have this dream and make it happen,
then you can pretty much do whatever you want to do.
It's not about making a movie, it can be whatever
you want to do. It can be losing a hundred pounds.
It inspires people to believe they can do it.
Did
you have to overcome more as a black woman or as a
beautiful woman in Hollywood?
I
think just being a woman in Hollywood is something
to overcome. But being black? Sure. I've pretty much
learned I can let that hinder me if I want to, I can
use that as an excuse, or I can fight for different
kinds of roles, do crackheads or more character kind
of roles rather just rely on looks. Swordfish
is the first time, really, I relied on that. Because
that's who this character is: She uses her looks to
get her way.
How
do you feel now that you've become a style icon and
a resilient role model, especially for young black
women?
Right
at this moment when you said that, it feels very overwhelming.
I do know, as part of the black community, growing
up I always needed someone to look up to and it was
hard to find those public images. I know how important
it is and I see little black girls and boys all the
time who come up to me and tell me I give them inspiration
and that feels really good. But I've learned I have
to live my life for me. I can't half-step everything
I do wondering how every 10-year-old in Harlem will
feel about it. I still have to live my life for me
but also know that as I go, maybe other people are
being inspired.
How
do you feel about clothes?
I
like dress-up. I started in beauty pageants. I love
fashion and hair and makeup, I love all that.
Do
you ever feel like doing something with that?
[Smiles]
I don't know. I'm still trying to crack this other
nut and it just won't seem to let me crack it. Later
in life maybe I'll find the time.
Who
are you wearing today?
A
hodgepodge of designers. I'm not really sure.
What
is that blue circle tattoo sneaking out of the top
of your mini in the back?
That
was covering a mistake of my first marriage [to athlete
David Justice]. I happened to tattoo his name back
there and a huge mistake that was. It's a design now,
it says nothing. I learned.
Are
you comfortable having your personal life be as well-known
as your movie roles?
That's
the only down part, but I realize that's part of me.
To all of a sudden say, "No more of that" would be
ridiculous. So it's trying to find the balance with
my new relationship what I'm willing to share and
what I'm not willing to share. I need to keep some
things for myself.
What
inspires you today?
Because
I have a family now, a husband and a daughter, that's
a good inspiration to work, make money for college.
I just want to do projects that I really want to do
and not have to worry what it will say about my career
or the limitations I've put on myself in the past.
My options have opened way up, now that I'm not saying
no to nudity. And it doesn't have to be nudity like
this one there were some movies that I said no to
because they had love scenes and I just didn't want
to do that. Now I feel more grown up and more adult
and more willing to try those.