When
I last saw you, at the Venice Film Festival a year ago, you
were about to start rehearsal on Eyes Wide Shut . .
. and you're still shooting with Stanley Kubrick. Of
course, you probably can't tell us anything about it . . .
Noooo
. . .
C'mon.
What can you say about it?
I
can tell you we're still shooting. That's no secret! [Laughs.]
We'll be on nine months. But we've had two months off--we
had a huge break at Christmas and at Easter.
And
what is the film about?
It's
about sexual obsession and jealousy. [Laughs, because this
is the only phrase condoned by Kubrick to describe the film.]
Has your experience with Kubrick been worth all the time
you've spent? Would you tell another actor your war stories,
and then say go ahead and do it, work with him?
Oh,
absolutely. You do it for as long as he wants to shoot. Yeah,
it's absolutely worth it. I love working with him. I said
to him the other day, "It's going to be so sad when we've
finished, I won't get to see you every day. You're like my
dad."
You really just relax into it. You can't fight it, you just
go with it. That's the key. And also, things could be a lot
worse than making a Kubrick movie. It really is a great honor
to be able to talk to him and find out little things. And
the way in which he works is so unique. And extraordinary.
I really feel very privileged.
Has
it helped that it's you and Tom working together?
Oh
yeah, I think it would have been more difficult if one of
us had been doing it and the other was still trying to find
another job. That would have been tough.
Okay, okay, we'll get to The Peacemaker now. George
Clooney, who's a notorious prankster on his sets, says he
didn't play pranks on you during the shoot.
No.
He was very good to me. He was a gentleman. But he was a forced
gentleman, I made him be a gentleman. I said, "If you
do something to me, I will pool all my resources and make
sure that I do something that's ten times worse than anything
you could ever think of"--and he was scared. [Smiles.]
He'll say that he wasn't. But he was! He said, "Okay, we'll
have a truce."
What
was your plan, in case he really did pull something?
There
was a time when there were all these female weightlifters
that were in Bratislava when we were filming there. I was
going to ask them before we left to go into his trailer and
all be in bikinis. But then I thought if I did that, then
I started it and I broke the truce and then it's all over.
He
said when he was walking around Bratislava with you and Tom
during filming, everyone thought he was your bodyguard.
That
is not true! He's exaggerating.
But
it's such a good story . . .
All
right, you can have it. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yup!
George
also said that you were coming off of the Portrait of a
Lady shoot, with Jane Campion, where you did fifty takes,
and he was used to doing three.
He's
such a liar! [Laughs.] I do like to do a lot
of takes--"Oh, I'd like to try something else," "I just
thought of something else!" "Why don't we do it like this?"
And he'd be like, "I'm finished--no, no, we don't want
to do anymore." But we would laugh, and he was right there
for me. They did laugh on the set because George is three
takes and I'm twenty-five: "Let's exhaust this until we've
tried it every possible way."
You've
worked with two Batmen now, Clooney and Kilmer . . .
I
have. Don't ask me which one's better. I've got to be a diplomat,
I like them all.
There's
one line in Peacemaker that's just delicious. Clooney
comes in and you say, "Want coffee?" and he says yes and you
say, "Go get it."
I
know! It was a good thing to say to him. I wanted to make
sure George took orders from a woman. It was nice to be able
to say it--not that he would ever listen, right? He'd
always disagree. [Smiles.]
There's an amazing action sequence that begins in a high-security
mansion's office, zips down to the street as you and George
make your getaway, then escalates to a chase to the death
when the two of you, in a Mercedes, are pursued by killers
in three BMWs. It's an amazing piece of kinetic filmmaking,
and some pretty intensive car carnage. How was that to film?
George
loved doing that. How often do you get to crash a Mercedes--and
not have to worry whether you're insured or not? [Claps
her hands above her head like a cheerleader, squeals with
delight.] Harder, harder, hit the BMW harder! The car's
crashing--that's a kid's dream. That was really fun.
I was holding onto the seat belt the whole time.
And what was it like doing this big, explosive action picture
and seeing Mimi Leder, a woman, sitting there directing? Was
it any different?
It
was just fantastic seeing her! This was her first film and
she just got out there and had such confidence. And the pace
of the film. When I sat down to watch it, I was amazed at
how fast the thing moves--and I know the story. She's
really good.
The
premise of The Peacemaker is horribly real. A terrorist
could really put a nuclear device in his backpack, walk into
the U.N. and detonate it. Did you sleep a little uneasily
while you were filming this?
They
do ignite fear, don't they? The thing I liked about the script
was it was plausible, it wasn't so far-fetched that this
could never happen. It's something we're all concerned about.
If not nuclear weapons, any sort of terrorism is terrifying.
When I was doing my research for the film, I realized how
many nuclear weapons exist in the world and that was astounding.
That's what I liked about the film: You were dealing with
something that was topical.
What was your toughest thing to do for Peacemaker,
outside of taking George Clooney seriously sometimes?
The
technical jargon. Because I have this thing about being able
to understand everything I say, so you really know
what you're saying. There was a lot of stuff; I worked with
a nuclear physics expert so I'd understand it and occasionally
be able to improvise a little bit, if it was needed. I'd look
at the technical advisor after a scene that I'd run a few
technical lines in and see a nod.
Is the family planning a holiday when--if?--you
finish Kubrick's film?
We're
planning to go hiking in Nepal, and just put the kids on our
back.
But aren't you the one that got lost on a mountain in Italy
last summer? Poor Tom, he must be--
He
is worried. But no, I've done a lot of other hikes.
That was just bad luck. [Laughs.] That was one out
of fifty. When we're in England we like to go hiking in the
Lake District. It's beautiful and so lush.
Where
do you stay up there?
We
just stay in a guest house. We take the kids and stay in a
guest house. I had a week off from the film so I took a poetry
course up there. I went to Wordsworth's cottage, and to be
able to do those walks and see those vistas that inspired
some of the great poems of all time. They really are breathtaking.
It's a long trip [from London], but worth going.
This is sort of a personal question, but how are you dealing
with Rosie O'Donnell's obsession with your husband?
I
love it. I like when women are obsessed with Tom. [Laughs.]
No, she's really cool. She's a great girl and I have actually
done her show. George and I are going to be doing it together.
She said to me, "Will you sing?" and I said, "You don't want
to hear me sing."
Is
Tom cool with the Rosie thing?
Oh
yeah, he thinks it's sweet. We've known her for quite a while.
I love that little button she pushes on her show: "Tommy,
can you hear me?" It makes me laugh! I need one of those at
home.
So
what does Rosie want to know about Tom that she can't ask
you on the air?
I
think she's asked everything. When he went on the show, I
said, "Make sure you give her a kiss." I like it, it's been
so sweet. And she's been so supportive of all his movies and
she's been a good friend.
When
you went on the show the first time, didn't she pretend to
be mad at you?
Yeah,
she was cute. I played along for her but it was fun. She says
she wants him to live in her house, wear an Armani suit, and
walk around and do chores.
Mow
the lawn?
I
wish he'd do that for me. He won't do it in an Armani
suit, but he's mowed the lawn a few times. He's a great cook
too.
What
does he cook mostly?
Italian
food. We've been in Europe a long time and it's rubbed off.
That's one of our great things: a glass of wine and to cook
together, it's a lot of fun.
Isn't
Eyes Wide Shut the first time you and Tom have worked
together since Far and Away? Is that kind of a treat?
It
is. We rarely get to explore each other in a different way.
It's been six years, and we probably won't work together again
for a long time, so we're relishing it.
Do
you know what you're going to do next?
I
have no idea, and I'm so glad to be able to say that. But
there's been talk of working with Ang Lee on Berlin Diaries;
it's set in World War II and is an epic love story.
Will
you miss being in London when the Eyes Wide Shut shoot
is over?
You
know, there's something really wonderful to be able to say,
"Let's get the children and take the Chunnel to Paris for
the weekend." That is just glorious. It's wonderful having
access to so many different countries in such close vicinity.
That is something I'll really miss. You can go to the Lake
District, to Ireland, you can fly to Spain in two hours, to
Italy in two and a half. And we've done it all!
Is
Kubrick's film the deepest you've ever gone with a movie?
Oh,
I don't know. I have to wait and see it. I loved working on
Portrait of a Lady, too, and even though the film had
a mixed reception, I'm still very proud of that film. Certainly,
Stanley challenges us. But I'll have to see it first. You
can't talk about a film until it's finished because it's such
a unique process. You can think you're making something, and
you see it and it's completely different.