The
Mighty was a little art film. Gloria is a little art film.
Your next movie, Albert Brooks' The Muse, is an arty little
comedy. Is this any way for a huge star to behave?
"I feel like so many rules are made for so many stupid reasons.
I break rules; I often feel there's a healthy level of sociopathy.
[Laughs.] To really achieve any level of greatness, you
have to be willing to say yes no matter who says no, and
to say no no matter who says yes. Sometimes it's so difficult.
So difficult. But you have to take risks, and you have to
take things you know aren't going to make a buck-fifty.
You have to do things to grow. You can't just always go
for the next hit--unless you're willing to keep being that
thing. Now, I know you make more money doing it that way,
but I don't care. There's no quality of life in that for
me.
Gena
Rowlands, Cassavetes' wife, is considered one of our greatest
actresses. She created Gloria in 1980; you recently worked
with her on The Mighty. What did she say about your remake?
The production people said they'd talked to her, that she
was into me playing it and thought it was a good idea. That
was very important to me; I didn't want to do it otherwise.
Then I went to make The Mighty, and of course, they'd never
spoken to her. So, I wrote her a letter and asked if I could
have drinks with her. She said yes, which surprised me.
I don't know if I would have if I were her--and I don't
think she was thrilled, either. But we talked for quite
a long time, and then we worked together. She became very
supportive and encouraging, called me a lot while I was
making the movie, came to New York and took me out to dinner.
She's wonderful.
How
is the new Gloria different?
Well, it's a very different time. You can't just shoot people
in the street, then run around New York. There's CNN, computers,
helicopters, surveillance cameras. It's all really different,
so it isn't like that. Children grow up much faster now;
that kid was 10 or 11 and our boy was 6. And I wasn't in
love, or soulmates, with [director] Sidney Lumet. Actors
love working with him, though. I learned a lot working with
Sidney, because you have to do everything in one take. If
you want another take, he tortures you. (Imitating an old
New York man's voice): "Oh, Shaaaron needs another take!"
And
what about working with a little boy?
Generally, you have another actor to work with. I had a
six-year-old who, like, had to pee. "I have to pee, I have
to pee." I'm like, "I understand, honey, but you have to
let go of your penis because we have to do this scene."
A
statement like that from Sharon Stone could affect a boy
for life. But it seems you're trying to move away from that
image of a woman who has power over men.
The work is so different for me now. It used to be about
sex and money and power and love and life and death. Someone
like [Basic Instinct's] Catherine Tramell was a power character
for me at the time, but if I played her today, she would
have to be a love character, because it's all about that
for me now. Of course, that would be excruciating.
So,
the ongoing rumors about a Basic Instinct sequel are just
rumors?
I turned down the sequel. I don't believe it's time for
that now, and I don't want to be Catherine anymore. I had
a home run with that movie, but I'm happy to just be at
bat now.
Has
marriage influenced that attitude?
Well, I'd been very much like a lone warrior. But now I
have less to lose because Phil can take care of me. Boy,
there's a lot of comfort in that.
And,
amazingly, you found that with a journalist. A little ironic,
considering you've been the target of so much tabloid coverage.
I married a journalist, a fine journalist. I didn't marry
those idiot, trendy, trash-mongering people who buy a camera
or a pen and pretend they're professionals. I have great
respect for good journalists, always have.
He's
the editor of a Bay Area newspaper. You're a Hollywood star.
Do you guys, like, meet in Fresno on weekends?
I can't be on the road all the time and expect my marriage
to be growing, too. I'm up there all the time...except when
it gets too dreary, then I come down to L.A. for a weekend,
just for the sunshine. But I love it in San Francisco. Love
the people.
Must
be a big change for someone who was so thoroughly part of
the Hollywood scene.
Enormous periods of change are my favorite things. I love
people who are willing to change; that's why I love my husband
so much. And that's why I really want to do something new
every time. And no matter what you do, you bring it into
your next work. It doesn't matter whether it's comedy or
drama, subtle or operatic; it informs you.
Speaking
of change, it's nice to see your hair long in a movie again.
Going to keep it that way?
When I have long hair, I don't have great hair, I have thin
hair. We do my hair in the morning, and I sit under the
dryer or use the curling iron or some other thing. I come
back after lunch, I have to go back into hair. This is why
I cut my hair. I feel like I have my life back. I wore a
three-quarter fall in Gloria, and it was a much nicer life.
Do
you still deserve your reputation as a demanding, driven
collaborator?
I'm an overachiever, so I always overwork and overdo things.
But I'll tell you, the older I get, the easier it is to
say to myself, "You know what? I can't do it today, and
I can't do it tomorrow, and I'm just going to stay in bed
all day and watch TV." I just don't feel I have to do everything
like I used to.
Sounds
suspiciously like admitting burnout, a strange thing to
hear from someone so ambitious.
Oddly, the lessons keep getting bigger, so, actually, it
gets tougher. You know, you think, Oh, I'll get to be a
star or I'll get acknowledged as an artist or I'll get to
make money...and then it'll all be fine. But somebody said
that with each of life's great gifts is the shadow of its
tragedy, and that is really true.
Have
you thought about what your life would be like if you weren't
a star?
Sure. Back when I was accepting all of those crappy movies,
I got to a point where I was willing not to have jobs. I
had been a waitress, and I really, really, really enjoyed
it. So I thought, Well, I'll waitress, and I'll do theater
in my garage. In fact, sometimes on holidays, I'll waitress
at a Salvation Army mission or something, and it's so fun
because these people don't go to the movies, they don't
have a TV, they don't know me from Adam. They just think
I'm a darn good waitress. And I really like that. [The
End]
Interview
for The Guardian from 3rd January 1999
Sharon
talks about fame after Basic Instinct movie:
"I wouldn't wish it on anybody. It's frightening not to
have enough privacy in your life to try things out, to see
how you feel before you're seeing how you feel on TV."
Sharon
talks about possibility of the sequel of Basic Instinct:
"The scripts needs to be as good as the first one - and
I need to be paid like Michael Douglas was paid for the
first one, which seems to be shocking to everyone. Men still
make more money than women in the industry." "Basic Instinct
was an incredible opportunity - but it's not all of what
I am. There was a sensationalised attitude to my image then.
But the sensational is dropping off and the professional
remains."
Sharon
remembers discipline households when she was child:
"You showed up on time and dinner was over when Dad said
it was over." "We didn't have a luxurious upbringing, but
now Dad and Mum have round-the-clock staff, a cook, a work-out
person and a massage person. They've accepted the burden
of luxury quite easily and they don't have the big price
tag (that goes with celebrity)."
Sharon
speaks about time after The Specialist movie:
"I had certain rules. I'd have to be a better actor in each
movie, and every other one had to be a potential hit, so
I didn't bury myself by just being in my art thing."
Nowadays,
Sharon goes after directors she wants to work with: Sydney
Pollack - "I've been stalking him for about three years."
Barry Levinson - "I hounded him to the death. I just called
him at home and showed up at his home, acted out scenes
in his living room, made friends with his wife."
Sharon
talks about her 40th birthday:
"Before, I spent all my time trying to resolve the issues
of my childhood. But when you get to 40you get tired of
that. You've worked that out. You start trying to live life.
I never did anything the way you're supposed to do it. If
my career is over, I guess my next career will turn up.
I was pretty excited about being 40."
Does
Sharon plan a baby?
"As for my personal life - gee, you know, I'd rather just
discuss that with my husband. But one thing I will tell
you - we have sex constantly!"
And
finally about stardom:
"Stardom is an incredibly maturing situation. Either you
mature or you die. Look back at women who have occupied
my space in history, women who have played leading-lady
parts with a sexual undertow. Most of them die. I prefer
not to." [The
End]