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The
Mail on Sunday
May 27, 2001
Only
a brave man would keep Sophie Marceau waiting. After all,
she's one of the most famous people in France, both as an
actress - she dazzled audiences as Princess Isabelle in Mel
Gibson's kilt-fest Braveheart and as mysterious heiress
Elektra King in the Bond movie The World is Not Enough
- and as an icon of beauty. She has been the "face" of Guerlain,
she was voted the woman most Frenchmen want to sleep with,
and one Leonardo DiCaprio declared that he wanted to work
with her, trumpeting, "She is as hot as it gets."
Unfortunately,
thanks to the vicissitudes of Eurostar and the lunchtime Paris
gridlock, I'm an hour late for my appointment with this goddess,
and my rising panic isn't assuaged by the constant sight of
her vivacious, teardrop-shaped face emblazoned across magazine
covers on the newsstands we're stuck in front of, nor by the
fact that her beauty is only surpassed by her legendary outspokenness.
Told of DiCaprio's ardour, she dismissed him as "a child",
harrumphing, "What is he, 13 or 11 ? Perhaps I could
play his nanny." Sean Bean, her co-star in Anna Karenina,
was "nice, but quite ordinary"; Robert De Niro, whom she encountered
on a plane, was "a funny-looking little man I didn't even
recognise"; on meeting Bruce Willis, her first thought was
"So what ?"; John Malkovich, her co-star in Beyond
the Clouds, was "a little boring - he thinks he's really
intellectual". Even Mel Gibson, who cast her in Braveheart
because "she looked exactly like my idea of a princess", gets
short shrift: "Every scene in that movie was all about Mel,
Mel, Mel."
All
of which means that by the time I drag myself into Sophie's
management office, in the shadow of the Eiffel Tower, apprehension
is riding high; a state of affairs not helped by an imperious
press officer, who solemnly intones: "Sophie is waiting."
So it's all the more surprising when the goddess herself appears,
the personification of chic in a pink, buttoned jersey top
emphasising her not inconsiderable décolletage, teamed with
black linen trousers and a huge grey floor-skimming padded
jacket which she immediately discards, all smiles and solicitations.
"Oh, the trains and traffic," she exclaims in her impeccable
English, "they are so..."and she dismisses the Euro-transport
networks with an extravagant Gallic shrug, accompanied by
an exclamation I can only transcribe as "Pouf !"
This
is the first pleasant surprise about Sophie. The second is
that she's even more glorious in the flesh than any picture
- moving or still - can suggest. Her looks have inspired journalists
to prosaic peaks ("She has the regular perfection that makes
babies smile," hyperventilated one. "The thick, glossed hair
tempts the fingers"), so I'll content myself by saying that,
in her 35th year, she could pass for a decade and a half younger;
that selfsame hair frames a burnished, unlined, mobile face,
while her fringe falls into her remarkable eyes, amber-coloured
and playful, and when she smiles they narrow to a pair of
mischievous slits without losing their intense regard.
For
make no mistake, Sophie is as serious as she is girlish. Like
her peers - Deneuve, Bouquet, Béart - she's as much a cultural
ambassador as an actress, albeit one whose diplomatic skills
may need a little finessing. On a tour of the Far East with
the late President Mitterrand as an official "Jewel of France",
she was asked what she thought of his beloved glass pyramid
in the Louvre courtyard. "I said I thought this was crazy,
a... what do you call it ? A blot," she says, grinning
at the memory. A flattened Mitterrand storied off in a huff.
Now
Sophie has taken this cultural dominatrix thing a step further.
She's here not to promote her latest movie (though she does
have one - a costume romp called, coincidentally, Belphégor
- Phantom of the Louvre, unlikely to trouble a multiplex
near you soon) but to talk about her debut novel. It's called
Telling Lies, and it's about a young actress who moons
about in her Paris apartment, reflecting on the man who's
just left her bed (or who may be just about to arrive - the
densities of the Marceau prose sometimes obscure the finer
plot details), makes trips to Cannes and Los Angeles (where
she feels bored and isolated, respectively), and ruminates
on life ("I no longer believed that I had to go on inventing
rules for myself in true life, in my life, which anyway was
no longer my own but had somehow become other people's lives"),
while dazzling everyone she meets with her profound beauty.
It seems natural to ask how autobiographical it is.
"Well,"
she says airily, lighting one of those impossibly elegant
French micro-cigarettes, "anything somebody does is autobiographical
in some way. But this takes elements from my life and adds
other viewpoints, though the matter of the book is very close
to what I know, what I've been through, and the people I've
met."
It
has been suggested that the idea for the novel came from Sophie's
long-term partner, Polish director Andrzej Zulawski, some
26 years her senior, and father of her five-year-old son Vincent
(they met when she was 18 and although they're not married
- "we haven't had time" - she calls him "my husband" and sports
two rings on her wedding finger). Zulawski, a published novelist
himself, wrote a scathing review of the book when it was first
published in France five years ago, and Sophie has seemed
reluctant to talk about it since. Now, however, she claims
she's "very proud" of her efforts. "It was always my idea
to do it," she says, "but I was just jotting down my thoughts
like a diary. I never thought it would be a book. But after
a while I saw I could put things together, and now I think
its a good portrait of someone who, psychologically and emotionally
speaking, looks beyond exteriors into metaphysical questions.
It's very abstract. I would love to ask you," she says suddenly,
levelling her gaze at me, "how does it read ?"
It's
very... French, I offer.
"Yeah,"
she says, laughing delightedly. "Very French. I think this
is correct l"
The
precedents for actors-turned-novelists are ominous - one only
has to scour the bargain bins for remaindered works by the
likes of Rupert Everett and Ethan Hawke. Was Sophie not daunted
by this ? She wrinkles her nose. "These people, I don't
read their books," she sniffs. "I have no time for this when
there is so much great literature to read. I don't compare
myself to them." And she blows out a mouthful of smoke with
exquisite disdain.
Disappointingly,
this is as close as Sophie comes to her off-message frankness.
When asked about the Oscars, she even goes out of her way
to praise Julia Roberts, who, she says, "has made a good career".
Of her much-vaunted rivalry with Isabelle Adjani - who used
to date Zulawski, and whom Sophie once compared herself to
with the words "I'm eight years younger, three inches taller,
and I've got breasts" - she says only that "in this job, people
think they have to have ambition, and maybe they get jealous
if they feel that they missed out on something. But I think
there should be room for everybody."
She
seems a little restrained today, though it's clear that the
ambivalence toward Hollywood in the novel is mirrored in real
life. "I have experienced isolation there," she confirms.
"I have different artistic goals. For me it's not about money
all the time; it's not my culture or my country. I think there's
only room for one French actress at a time for them, and right
now it's Juliette Binoche. She's loved because maybe she represents
more the idea of France as Americans imagine it."
Does
she think her tell-it-like-it-is tendency has put Hollywood
off her ? "Do you think I'm outspoken ?" she smiles
sweetly. "You're supposed to put your head down, be nice,
smile, don't be controversial, and I can't do that." She makes
a what-the-hell face. "My next film will be in Hollywood if
I like the script, but if not I won't cry. I go my own way."
It
was certainly a shock to see the cerebral Sophie turning up
as a fully fledged Bond girl. Rumour had ìt that Zulawski
was equally taken aback, considering the role beneath her
- not to mention being intensely jealous of her love scenes
with Pierce Brosnan - and that the couple separated in the
ensuing row. Not true, says Sophie. "The Bond was a fun thing
and it opened up a lot of opportunities. Plus, I got to play
a villain, and it was much more liberating to do that in a
Bond movie than in a real movie."
However,
she concedes that Zulawski was jealous. "He can't watch my
love scenes," she chortles. "He goes to the kitchen and rattles
the pots and pans. That's healthy though, no ?" Well,
yes. But it seems that, surprisingly perhaps, Sophie is also
troubled by screen nudity. "It makes me choosy about roles,"
she says. "Forty years ago actresses didn't have to do that,
and still they were good actresses. We've lost a lot of eroticism.
And," she says, getting quite worked up, "I hate those kisses,
you know, American kisses, with the tongues out. They're disgusting.
I can't look, its like porno l"
You
must have had to kiss like that in movies, I insist. "No !"
she fairly shrieks. "I don't kiss this way ! Other actors,
maybe, mentioning no names."
Oh,
go on...
"Well,
Malkovich then," she spits. "Ugh."
Sophie's
singular views are grounded, you feel, by a complete confidence
in her own beauty. Unlike most beautiful women, who invariably
protest that they think they look like ducks, Sophie always
knew she was a stunner. "Boys made me aware of it," she beams.
"They used to follow me around and stare at me." Does she
think a person can get a long way on beauty alone ? "Oh
yeah," she shoots back. "Beauty is like for ever; it changes,
but I have a satisfaction to see myself changing, maturing.
I love to feel that I'm beautiful, when people say, 'Oh, you
look great tonight.'"
Her
looks have certainly helped Sophie go the distance. She was
born Sophie Maupu in a Parisian suburb to a truck-driver father
and shop-assistant mother. She changed her name in homage
to Paris's Avenue Marceau, and landed her first acting role
at 13, answering an ad for child models because "l was bored
and wanted to be independent and earn some money". Was she
ambitious ? "I was never looking for the big fame," she
says, almost wistfully. When I was young I used to see statues
of people and think, "Oh, it must be terrible to be a statue
because everyone can look at you and the rain falls on you
and pigeons crap on you."
However,
the "big fame" found her when she starred in the 1980 film
La Boum - a Dirty Dancing-style teen sensation
movie - and its sequel; suddenly she was "France's little
sweetheart". "I remember being confused and having to go through
ten years in about a year," she says. "I had to leave school
because I was too busy and too different. It taught me a lot
in a short time, but I felt misunderstood, because I was known
for this fluffy stuff, but I've never been a frivolous person.
I've always been quite shy."
Meeting
Zulawski was certainly a huge turning point for Sophie; he
immediately cast her as a teenage prostitute in L'Amour
braque (Crazy Love), its scenes of violence and
nudity (not a pan-rattling offence, it appears, in Zulawski's
own movies), turning Sophie's image on its head, and leading
to accusations that he was her Svengali. "It wasn't that,"
she snorts. "He saw the direction I needed to go in. People
thought I was a little girl and there was a lot more I needed
to express." She's proud to refer to Zulawski as "my only
lover - I never had a real boyfriend before Andrzej". What
of those polled Frenchmen who are all yearning to take his
place ? "I think that means most men are more romantic
than we think," she says ingenuously. "They believe in something
that's not spoiled, they're not going for easiness or accessibility."
Prospective suitors should be warned, however - Sophie likes
a good spat. "Andrzej and I row every few days and I love
it," she declares. "It's a good thing, no ?
The
couple have a house in Warsaw and another just outside Paris,
where their son attends school. Has motherhood changed Sophie ?
"It's improved me, I think," she considers. Sometimes, she
says, she'll be out with Vincent and he'll point to her and
shout, "Look ! It's Sophie Marceau and she's my mother !"
He says, "People like you, so why shouldn't I tell them ?"
I'm
surprised, I remark, that you haven't been immortalised as
Marianne, the bust that epitomises the spirit of France, like
your forebears Inès de la Fressange and Catherine Deneuve.
"You know what ?" she exclaims. "I'm very surprised myself,
but that's the contradiction in French people; they don't
want to admit that they want me to do this."
Most
people will by now have noticed the contradictions in Sophie
herself - the girl who didn't want to be a statue but wouldn't
mind being a bust; the shy person who regularly disrobes but
hates kissing; the flinty goddess who doesn't mind being kept
waiting for an hour; the actress who's actually a novelist
(she's currently taking a break from movies to concentrate
on her writing). "Ah," she says, "but this is the thing about
where I come from; we contradict ourselves and argue from
opposing viewpoints all the time. That's why I called the
book Telling Lies. It's just like you said it was..."
Very
French ?
"Yes,"
laughs Sophie Marceau, tickled all over again. "Very, very
French."
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